shaggy mane vs inky cap

Linda Crampton (author) from British Columbia, Canada on October 17, 2018: Thank you very much for the comment, Kristen. Because of its auto-destruct mechanism, this mushroom is best enjoyed when young, long before the cap starts to separate and turn into ink. Very interesting hub! Another common name is “lawyers wig” and in fact, the latin name “comatus” is derived from “coma” which means hair. The correct identification of both mushrooms is vital before they are used as food since poisonous mushrooms can be dangerous. My local stores sell quite a wide variety of mushroom species, which satisfies my desire for different tastes. Mushrooms are so fascinating, and modern scientists are just beginning to explore their healing capacities. You can almost picture a drunk mushroom picker learning his lesson for the first time, then trying it again, and again before figuring out he's on to something. While the shaggy mane itself does not contain coprine, I have heard of people claiming to get sick when combining them with alcohol. The young shaggy mane mushroom is elongated and roughly cylindrical in shape. Does it leave behind anything in the soil or on grass? Maybe I'll study this hub and then give it a go ;-). In general, they are white, rough looking gilled mushrooms with a cylindrical, tall-standing fruitbody. Believe it or not, that’s a typical price for wild-harvested Cordyceps sinensis. In this article, I wanted to share some fun facts and hopefully answer some of your questions about one of my favorite mushrooms to find in the wild, the Shaggy Mane- otherwise known as Coprinus comatus. As a cousin to the Shaggy Ink Cap, the Common Ink Cap, Inky Cap, or Alcohol Ink Cap mushroom as this type is also referred, it is a mushroom that can be toxic if eaten with or after consuming alcohol. Nikolic Predrag from Serbia, Belgrade on June 03, 2014: Very interesting and useful hub! The coprine needed to be ingested in large amounts to cause these effects, however. Scales are upturned, whitish tan to reddish brown. Mystery solved!! Thanks for the comment. I don't see mushroom pickers near my home, but I do see some very interesting varieties of cultivated mushrooms at local farmers markets. spore deposit is blackish. A very insight here. Shaggy manes and other self-digesting mushrooms are known as inky caps. Like the shaggy mane, it's an edible mushroom. I love the Shitaki mushrooms, and all the edible ones that I know about. Some fungi are more active than others in their effort to get food. Within twenty-four to forty-eight hours, the borders of the cap begin to liquefy, and the entire cap is converted into a pool of inky black fluid, the origin of the common name "inky cap." Another inky cap in North America is Coprinopsis atramentaria. They grow out of hard or disturbed earth – they never grow out of wood, like tree trunks or stumps. Linda Crampton (author) from British Columbia, Canada on March 08, 2020: Thanks for the mushroom info. Coprine produces its effects on alcohol metabolism if the alcohol is consumed after common inky caps are eaten. Like the shaggy mane, gill edges of the common inky cap turn black and liquefy with age. Antabuse is an interesting substance. Of course, as with any mushroom, you need to be 100% sure of a mushroom’s it’s identification if you plan on eating it or serving it to others. As always, I appreciate your visit! Voted up and shared. Shaggy Manes Dissolving. But now I would try the shaggy mane if the opportunity presented itself. The Shaggy Mane is the most well known of the inky caps, and one of the few that remains in the genus Coprinus Common Name: Shaggy Mane, lawyer’s wig, inky cap – The unusual bullet shape of the cap bears some resemblance to the pate so that the cascading scales become disheveled locks or … Fascinating hub here and I always learn so much from your hubs on interesting topics. If the mushrooms are heated in water in an iron pot, an olive green dye is produced. Linda Crampton (author) from British Columbia, Canada on June 11, 2014: Hi, ignugent17. Mushroom experts say that the shaggy mane has a distinctive appearance and is easily identified, however. Shaggy Manes are among several members of the family called “Inky Caps” and share a family resemblance. I've never seen them in a grocery store. See more. One of my university professors told my class about a fungus expert who died after eating mushrooms that he had misidentified. Their shaggy caps are impossible to ignore – even though some of the shaggy mane mushrooms may have the same shape as other mushrooms, none will be more flakey and shaggier than the shaggy mane … Mushrooms grow wild after prolonged rain on our property. Thanks for the comment! The latin name is Coprinus comatus ( meaning long-haired ), which makes sense considering it has a … Autodigestion by inky caps leaves a gooey black deposit on the soil. They will start turning into ink just a few hours after being picked. As autodigestion takes place, the cap and gills change into a black, gooey liquid. Most of the time I see shaggy manes growing out of hard ground, like packed soil on the edge of a trail. Foraging for food is an enjoyable activity, provided the food is safe. In addition to being eaten, shaggy manes are used to make a dye. I collect them and we usually get enough to add to three or four meals. The cap of these mushrooms turns from white to black as it matures, then turns into an inky goo after it releases its spores. I want to use the ink and have collected a few ml in a jam jar. I appreciate your visit and comment. These common inky cap mushrooms are undergoing autodigestion. At that price, a 60 gram bottle of Cordyceps should cost around $1200! Hi, DDE. Description: Shaggy manes have a rounded, slender dry white cap covered with flat to somewhat elevated reddish brown scales. It also seems to like disturbed soils near trails and roads. I have always been reluctant to collect wild mushroons, but I sure buy them from the store. Digestion of the cap enables the fungus to distribute the spores and reproduce. Hi, Nell! Yes, the health effects of mushrooms are fascinating. The production of an inky liquid is not the shaggy mane's only claim to fame. It's also known as the common inky cap, tippler's bane, and the alcohol inky. Shaggy mane is saprophytic and grows well on compost, but can also grow on wood like many other gourmet mushrooms. The lamella are initially also white, later pink and finaly the whole mushroom dissolves in an ink-like liquid. If you are interested, we did a video on growing shaggy mane which you can check out if interested. I would collect wild mushrooms if I had a source that contained lots of mushrooms that were known to be safe. Despite its strange behaviour, the shaggy mane is edible and is said to be pleasantly flavoured. 2008. Photo attributions. Bigredwine1, via Wikimedia Commons, CC BY-SA 4.0 License. I would love to be able to recognize and pick wild mushrooms. Thanks for sharing the story. Very helpful tips for avoiding the poisonous shooms too! Loved the time lapsed video of the Shaggy Mane Inky Caps ... wow, it truly does look like black ink! Luckily, Shaggy Mane does not contain coprine- but still, it may be worth it to play it safe and avoid alcohol if you plan on eating Shaggy Mane. It often grows in large numbers along roadsides and in lawns and disturbed areas. The medicinal uses for inky cap are very useful for alcoholics. It is widespread and common on roadside verges, parkland, grassland and gardens, growing in small groups. Linda Crampton (author) from British Columbia, Canada on June 02, 2014: Hi, vespawoolf. Coprinus comatus, also known as shaggy-mane ink cap, or lawyer's wig is a common fungus which has a white, conical, shaggy cap which blackens. My father used to take us mushrooming when we were young. Thank you very much for the visit and the comment. The shaggy mane gets its name because the cap actually does have a “shaggy” appearance. VioletteRose from Atlanta on June 20, 2014: I am not a big fan of mushrooms. wonderful hub, voted up and shared, if the darn button works, so its tweeted instead! The cap is light grey or buff in color and has a ragged or pleated edge. The full text of the poem appears in an 1899 publication shown on the Internet Archive website. Many fungi have white hyphae that continue to grow in the soil once mushrooms have been picked. Inky caps are a group of mushrooms that have an unusual method of distributing their spores. In some inky cap mushrooms deliquescence or liquefaction of the cap is complete, while in others it's only partial. You really gave us a through overview of some of the mushroon varieities. Voted up, interesting and informative. I love to find and photograph wild mushrooms. Hi, Flourish. Shaggy manes fruit in summer and fall after a … Hi, seanorjohn. All of the mushrooms that produce a black liquid as they mature are referred to as inky caps. Could it be from that process? I haven't received any notifications today, either, so I'm also going to have to visit hubs by using the long method! Bill De Giulio from Massachusetts on June 09, 2014: Hi Linda. They turn to ink very soon after being picked, even when refrigerated, so they wouldn't last long in a store. The combination of common inky caps and alcohol produces unpleasant symptoms but doesn't seem to be dangerous. lol! I appreciate your visit. There may always be some risk in collecting wild mushrooms to eat. Upon emerging from the soil, the white cap quickly turns a moist inky black from liquefying gills. Hi, fascinating look at these amazing inky caps, never heard of that saying before! I never knew Antabuse was made from mushrooms. The name "inky cap" sounds like a tag line from a Monty Python sketch. Peggy Woods from Houston, Texas on June 03, 2014: My mother picked morels when I was young and just before moving to Texas we found out that the puffballs that were plentiful in a nearby woods were edible. First, there’s the time away from work, the gym and personal projects. My parents used to collect and eat wile Morel mushrooms, but the fear of being poisoned keeps me from following in their footsteps. Reply. The reaction can even occur if alcohol has been consumed within two or three days of eating the coprine containing mushroom. I really like mushrooms and prefer to buy. At this stage the mushroom is not edible, although not poisonous. Autodigestion begins at the edge of the cap and proceeds inwards. It scared me and besides I would not take that chance. I would want to be 100% sure before I collected any wild mushroom for food, too! Pictures ( 7) << previous picture | next picture >>. I appreciate the share, too, especially since it was so difficult! Very interesting. Shaggy Mane – Inky Cap Mushroom. Thanks for the visit and the comment. However, there is one notable exception called the Desert Shaggy Mane (or Desert Inky Cap) and it has sprung up this week in more abundance than I’ve ever seen along the sides of Highway 168 in the Warm Springs area (between 7-9 miles west of Interstate Highway I … Even after harvesting, it is best if used right away, as it won’t stay good for very long after harvest. I have searched and they look the same. True shaggy manes will usually be much taller and more robust than other inky caps. Great information as always. Coprinus comatus is known as the shaggy mane because its cap develops a ruffled appearance and as the inky cap because it dissolves into black goo as it ages. Linda Crampton (author) from British Columbia, Canada on June 03, 2014: Hi, ologsinquito. It is always better to get store mushrooms than eat poisonous mushrooms, great hub. Bill Holland from Olympia, WA on June 03, 2014: I don't know about in your area, but here we have a great many people who pick mushrooms, for personal use and sale. Liquefied Coprinus comatus was used as writing ink in George Washington's day. One I scrapped that up, the mushrooms died out. They’re supposed to be eaten when young and I can see why. The shaggy mane and the common inky cap are North American members of the inky cap group. and I didn't realise that the chemicals could keep alcohol affects going, makes sense why people take it with alcohol now, not that they should take them at all without proper guidance, and using them for dye too, fascinating! It's also important to note that the symptoms listed above can have other causes besides mushroom poisoning. I've dedicated a ton of time to learn all about the amazing world of mushrooms- and would love to share that information with you! Sure wished I paid attention to what he was doing. It is super easy to identify and once you get a feel for it, it is instantly recognizable, making it a perfect species for beginners. Some species are collected for food, although people are careful to eat the mushrooms before they turn to goo. Well what do you know. It usually develops a white or tan cap which is cylindrical (Photo C), and later bell-shaped, with large, shaggy scales (A). Another wonderful hub and thanks for the great information on mushrooms. Coprine produces similar effects to disulfiram (trade name Antabuse), a medication given to alcoholics to increase their sensitivity to alcohol and encourage abstinence. I've never thought of that before, but you're right - "inky cap" does sound like something from Monty Python! Cap almost cylindrical and initially covers most of its stem, becomes later conical. Become a VIP for discounts, giveaways and more. What a good job, and so informative! It is edible when young. As in the shaggy mane, the gills are white at first and then to turn to grey and finally to black. In China, it is often grown in cooler temperatures on synthetic wood logs. Do I need to add any further water? I love mushrooms too. The cap turns black at maturity and liquifiesy (deliquesces)(D). The common inky cap contains coprine, however. Remarkably, this … Researchers have discovered that Coprinus comatus is nematophagous. She loves to study nature and write about living things. The 1 to 2 cm thick stalk remains usualy behind. I love mushrooms but I would never dare to eat wild ones for I am clueless as to which ones are safe. The reason I ask is two years ago I was plagued by some strange mushrooms. This is an interesting question! Members of the group digest their own cap. Widespread and common in Britain and Ireland, Coprinus comatusis also found throughout mainland Europe, from Scandinavia down to the southern edge of the Iberian Peninsula and the shores of the Mediterranean. Melody Lassalle from California on October 29, 2014: This was so fascinating. Collectors need to be cautious when gathering any type of fungus, especially when they don't have access to the specialized equipment and techniques used by scientists for identification. The book contains an introduction and illustrations created by Laurence Housman (1865–1959). Thank you so much for the share, dis-cover! It is effectively very watery already. It is the most commonly consumed poisonous mushroom in north america. Many of them look amazingly beautiful and unique, don't they? Coprinopsis atramentaria doesn’t develop ruffles, but it does turn into ink. I am enjoying the day off today but I realized I have not received any HP notifications at all since 11:55 yesterday? We use to hunt them and my father would always remind us to make sure that we get edible and not the poisonous mushrooms. The caps are opening up as digestion proceeds from the edge of the cap. Shaggy manes, like the common inky cap, deteriorate quickly, going from pure white to a mess of black sludge in a matter of days. I learned something new, so that's great! It's risky to collect any mushroom from the wild unless a person is absolutely certain about the identity of the mushroom that they've picked and knows that it's safe to eat. Shaggy Mane. FlourishAnyway from USA on June 03, 2014: This is so interesting -- the uses and their odd characteristics. The Common Ink Cap has a smooth appearance without the noticable shaggy looking outer covering. At one time it was thought that coprine might be a good substitute for disulfiram in treating alcoholism. Shaggy manes dissolve into drippy black goo over time, as the mushroom caps slowly digest themselves. Common inky caps8photograph by Ludovic Le Renard. Picking mushrooms sounds like fun, as long as a person is certain that they are picking something safe! As it ages, the mushroom takes on a much different appearance. Unlike the shaggy mane, the cap is short, usually less than 8 cm tall, and it is grey to brown, smooth, without scales7. Coprine works in the same way as the commercial drug Antabuse, which is used to prevent severe alcohol dependence. Thanks for the visit. Linda Crampton (author) from British Columbia, Canada on June 01, 2014: Hi, MJ. Enzymes called chitinases break down the chitin providing strength to the cell walls in the gills and cap, which destroys the cells in these areas. Edible, but not if alcohol is consumed within a few days of eating them. In 1820, English poet Percy Bysshe Shelley wrote the four lines below in his poem "The Sensitive Plant". Devika Primić from Dubrovnik, Croatia on June 03, 2014: I don't trust the thought of foraging for mushrooms in the wild to scared of picking the wrong ones. I think that photographing mushrooms is enjoyable, too. In normal alcohol metabolism, the body converts the alcohol to acetaldehyde. In addition, you should read more than one mushroom identification book and look at lots of photos and videos in order to pick up further identification clues. I would not be confident to identify the edible from the poisonous. It has a different chemical structure from coprine, but like coprine it prevents acetaldehyde breakdown in the liver by inhibiting the acetaldehyde dehydrogenase enzyme. Aha, that's got round it! thankyou very much for this excellent post. Refrigeration slows this process down only slightly. I love mushrooms, but can honestly say I knew nothing about them, other than which ones to buy at the grocery store. I am particularily passionate about growing mushrooms, and teaching others how to do the same. Vespa Woolf from Peru, South America on June 02, 2014: What interesting and useful mushrooms! The mushrooms are harvested, dried to prevent auto-digestion, and are sold in grocery stores. Recovery is apparently complete, although it's possible that secondary effects could be serious. Martie Coetser from South Africa on June 14, 2014: Extremely interesting article about Shaggy Manes and Inky Caps mushrooms. The scales make the mushroom look somewhat like a traditional lawyer's wig and give it one of its common names. Thank you very much for the lovely comment and for making the effort to visit my hub, Faith! Coprinus comatus. The video below shows an interesting time-lapse view of inky cap autodigestion. Dusulfiram is marketed with the trade name of Antabuse or Antabus. Oct 1. Then there’s extra time and expense of going, What’s a reasonable price to pay for something to help with energy, endurance, and immunity? Thanks for the comment and the votes, Vellur. It's fun to write about nature and biology! Many dangerous mushrooms can be mistaken for edible ones. The gills are located on the undersurface of the cap and bear the reproductive spores. Shaggy mane can often be found growing in rich soils and grass in the summer and fall. The spores aren't digested, however. How nice that the shaggy mane is edible and easy to identify. Coprinus comatus is known as the shaggy mane because its cap develops a ruffled appearance and as the inky cap because it dissolves into black goo as it ages. This auto-digestion of the cap starts from the bottom of the gills, and works its way up, causing the cap to curl up, the gills to open, and the spores to be dispersed. When cutting open a young species, the gills are initially white, and tightly packed together. The mushrooms are at different stages of autodigestion. Linda Crampton (author) from British Columbia, Canada on September 03, 2014: It sounds like you have a lovely memory from your childhood, precy anza. am areful to only pick the type I know are fine. Also as in the shaggy mane, the cap doesn't open up into an umbrella shape until autodigestion begins. Let’s face it: Getting sick is inconvenient. Very interesting! Shaggy Mane Inky Caps are edible (at the "all white" stage) and useful. cap has shaggy, upcurving scales. Shaggy mane “ink”. Fungi are fascinating. Their mass rotted off them flake by flake. cap is tall and elongated. Janes Lindsey at Ecology of Commanster, via Wikimedia Commons, CC BY-SA 2.5 License. I have been eating them for years - gently pan fried in butter with a squeeze of lemon or lime, served on toast - and have had them for lunch about eight times in the last fortnight. One common inky cap mushroom in North America is Coprinus comatus, which is also known as the shaggy mane, shaggy inky cap, and the lawyer's wig. It's white or cream in colour but generally has a brown tip. There has been at least one report of an esophageal rupture due to excessive vomiting after consuming common inky caps and alcohol. Unlike plants, fungi don't contain chlorophyll and can't produce their food by photosynthesis. Because they turn into this inky black goo, shaggy manes are known inky caps, along with some other mushrooms that dissolve into inky black liquid. Thank you very much for the comment, the vote and the share, Carolyn! The shaggy mane has a white, shaggy, cylindrical cap that turns black and inky. Consuming alcohol before or after eating common inky caps produces very unpleasant effects. Thanks, Alicia :). Hi, Jodah. I wouldn't feel confident in always distinguishing safe from poisonous mushrooms either, except in some cases. Shop our Thrive 6 range. Another educational and interesting hub, great job. Upvoted and shared! The common inky cap is found in North America, Europe, and other parts of the world. Thanks, Liz. Species of the “coprinus” genus are known as “inky caps” because of a special auto-digestion feature, where the fruiting body slowly degrades into a gooey black ink. It isn't actually made from mushrooms, but it has similar effects to the alcohol inky. Shiitake mushrooms are tasty, healthy, and widely available in grocery stores where I live. This mushroom causes serious severe gastrointestinal distress, like vomiting, diarrhea, and other nasty stuff. zarina shaikh says: October 21, 2020 at 7:52 pm . The caps dissolve into a black inky … Although this is true for other Coprinus species, it is not necessarily true with Shaggy Mane (coprinus comatus). Inky caps are a fascinating part of nature. Linda Crampton (author) from British Columbia, Canada on September 07, 2019: The cap of the mushroom contains the spores. As always with wild mushrooms, you want to be 100% sure of a mushrooms identification before consuming it. I live on the coast in Victoria, Australia, and we have an abundance of "shaggy tops" for a couple of weeks in Autumn. Packed with all the mushrooms you need. However, I would love to go on a course run by professional mushroom experts. Although this is true for other Coprinus species, it is not necessarily true with Shaggy Mane (coprinus comatus) This confusion stems from the fact that the common inky cap also known as “coprinus atramentaria” contains a compound called “coprine” which interferes with the way we metabolize alcohol. As mentioned before, Shaggy Mane is considered a gourmet edible, and is a favorite among mushroom hunters. The Shaggy Mane is a very common wild mushroom that you can often find growing in parks, on lawns, and at the sides of trails in disturbed soil. “Leave mushrooms on the counter until they turn into a black, inky mess, then puree this goop and eat it” sounds like instructions in a recipe for someone on a … It grows in scattered trooping groups on soil in short grass. But even though Cordyceps is quite. Many years ago I heard of a person recognized as a mushroom expert who died from eating poisonous mushrooms, so we do have to be very careful when collecting wild mushrooms. The dye can be used to color wool, fabric, and paper. Why it starts from the lower part of mushroom? It commonly appears in the fall. Coprine is considered to be a mycotoxin—a toxin that comes from a fungus. Coprine stops acetaldehyde breakdown, thereby intensifying and prolonging the effects of alcohol ingestion. Mushrooms can be a tasty and interesting food! Yes, it is interesting to think about how the connection between the mushroom and alcohol consumption was first discovered! Thank you!! Thank you for such a glimpse into varieties of mushrooms that don't exist in my corner of the world! Voted up, useful and interesting! It's not as distinctive or as easily identified as the shaggy mane, until it turns to ink. Shaggy manes generally produce ink as they deteriorate, so it will be interesting to see what happens to the mushrooms outside your apartment. Thank you very much for the kind comment, Cynthia. Thanks for the comment. Absolutely delicious! Then I realized that there was this white marshmallow like substance that they left behind. Since common names are so variable it’s best to refer to a mushroom by its scientific name in order to avoid confusion, though. Thanks for the comment. Hi' I'm Tony. Faith Reaper from southern USA on June 02, 2014: Hi Alicia, great hub! Cap Shaggy, scaly, whitish,1-2 inches wide, 2-6 inches tall becoming inky and gooey as it expands eventually leaving just the stem. cap is black and inky when old. If I had a reliable source of mushrooms that I knew were safe, I would collect them. You made a lot of interesting points there that I was unaware of. John Hansen from Queensland Australia on June 03, 2014: Very interesting hub Alicia. precy anza from USA on September 03, 2014: Learned something new with this, didn't know they are made into dyes.

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